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Finally, parts back from the machine shop :-D Nice, nice, nice
Looking forward to put it back on the engine (hopefully I will remember how to).
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:perfect10:
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Today I had some spare time to work on the bike. Replaced the mechanical seal, put on a stainless steel water pump shaft, new piston rings, base gasket and so on. It was not difficult to fit the cylinder block on pistons, but I forgot to mount the water pump drive gear before installation. Had to take the block up and then I lost a nut down the crankcase :dm:
Luckily I found it in the oil pan. :-D I also installed the new liska idle gear. Looking good. Next operation will be the cylinder head
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Re: Engine rebuild

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:woohoo: Cylinder head back on the bike. Camshafts timing is correct and everything turns smoothly.
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It looks like a very thorough rebuild :woohoo:
Very nice and thanks :thanks: for the pictures! :thmup:
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Thanks :-D
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I have been following this post, that is very good looking machine work.
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The machine shop did a great work. They had to replace two of the valve guides, because they where broken off. Furthermore seated all the valves (none of them were seating), replace circlips (just a matter of time before valves could fall down into cylinder), pressure testing and cutting down 0.2mm off the cylinder head. It was also necessary to replace intake camshaft (from eBay).

They said i should notice a significant difference now :-)
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Finally ready to start it. I discovered that the battery was weak but with some extra power it started right up at first attempt :-D
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What a relief :woohoo:

Sounds much nicer than before, but would not idle by itself. I warmed up the engine and bleed the coolant system. When the engine is cold I’m going to check/torque the cylinder head bolts. Tonight I’m going to celebrate this with a cold beer :-D
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jorgeno wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:50 pm Finally ready to start it. I discovered that the battery was weak but with some extra power it started right up at first attempt :-D
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What a relief :woohoo:

Sounds much nicer than before, but would not idle by itself. I warmed up the engine and bleed the coolant system. When the engine is cold I’m going to check/torque the cylinder head bolts. Tonight I’m going to celebrate this with a cold beer :-D
Good for you, jorgeno,it is always a good feeling to hear a new rebuild fire up for the first time, and I am a firm believer in head retorques !
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Thanks cushman eagle and yes. It was fantastic to hear the engine running again :-) Now the bike is prepared for long time storage and I’m waiting for the summer. I have learned so much. I will now continue my work on my ZG1300
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Looks like you have a few parts from an 84 on your 86 ZN1300
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I don’t know, what parts are you thinking off? The seat?
The bike was in bad shape when I bought it, but now it is good. If the odometer is correct the engine has been running for 127000 miles :-D
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Picture looked like a black gas tank.
Upon review it looks like a red one.
I also thought you had a chrome stator cover but was mistaken on that also.
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Winter is coming and it’s dark here in Norway. My cellphone cam isn’t the best. So it could look like a black one, but it is a red 86 model :-)
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Started the bike today and did a little test ride. I am happy to discover that the transmission now works perfect and the engine sounds much better than before the rebuild. That`s the positive side.

The negative side is that the idling is unstable and the throttle response is sluggish. It was like this before put it into winter storage. I thought a bad vacuum sensor could cause that, but I replaced it and nothing changes.

I suspect that the vacuum synchronization could be out of position. Readings from manifolds #1 and #2 20 cm Hg, #3 and #4 10 cm Hg, #5 and #6 16 cm Hg.
I`m not sure that I did the inspection right. The manual says .." pull off the vacuum hoses from the 3 and #4 manifolds sliding the hose clamps out of position"? And then what? Are they gonna be open when I perform readings from manifolds 1,2, 5 and 6? Or close them with a hose? Or do you adjust manifolds 1 and 2 to 3 and 4? Since they are the master manifolds?

Can somebody please explain better how to synchronizing engine vacuum?

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Watching. Sorry, don't know the answer to your question but interested in the answer as I'm probably going to have to do this myself at some point as I think it's probably overdue.

I thought that with a KZ1300 the 'two barrel' carbs could only be adjusted in pairs, so only 3 vacuum ports in total were measured and 2 adjustment points (1 fixed and two adjustable). It hadn't occurred to me that with FI, vacuum on all 6 ports can be measured and 5 adjusted. Is the procedure in the manual adjusted because they assume a common 4-port vacuum gauge is being used to sync 6 cylinders?
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You are right Bucko, I think it`s only necessary to adjust manifold 1, 3 and 6. I will check it out and report how it goes :-)
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All good now, it was a leak from the intake rubber boot. Runs really great now. :-D
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Jorgeno
Very good job, thanks for posting including all of those pictures, the engine does sound good in the video. Looking at the pictures of the endless chain, for as many miles that were on the engine they looked very good. On my CB500 I replaced the endless chain twice at 20 k each time it looked worse then yours. Showing that Kawasaki build a heavy duty engine.

Wanted to know if you installed new main bearings? The old pistons I saw in the pictures it looked like you reused them? Wondering what the piston clearance was after the cylinder was honed? Vacuum leaks are so simple and yet the hardest things to pin point. On my 12 I was also have low power and Idle problems. I called Carl and he said Don you have a vacuum leak! Of course I didn't want to believe, but Carl was right the leaks were in the rubber intake boots. I replaced the new allen head screws and the problem like yours was gone. Happy riding this summer.

Again very good Job
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