Has anyone ever "changed" there Kawasaki Audio System?

[k7nutN7nut]

What I mean is, has anyone ever replaced there Audio System for something else all together?
The reason I ask is, being a "ham" operator, it makes no sense to me to take up so much space on the dash with a "receiver", when I could have a "transceiver" there instead!?
I have already sold the Clarion 9090V that was on the wreaked '00 V XII and plan on doing the same with the one currently on my '00. I am in the process of getting a Yaesu FTM-10SR mounted on my "spare" dash setup from the wrecked Voyager, so I can hopefully just pull the fairings one day and R&R the setup on to my "runner"!?
My question is, has anyone ever swapped out the 9090V for something else and if so, do the volume controls on the L hand grip do anything with the new unit?
From the looks of the amp, the plug for the headset comes out of it, so I was thinking the volume is controled through the amp, not the stereo. My hope, was to wire a plug for my Yaesu to "pass" through to the amp and maybe have some controls?
I don't know yet, when I get time, I'm out in the shop getting the puzzle pieces gathered so I can wire it up on the bench and test it. But I thought I would run it by yous guys...maybe someone has already done this?
Either way, the Clarion is going to be gone and the Yaesu is in...which also means I will install a Larson NMO mount for a new antenna!

[Mr Jensee]

There are no aftermarket radios that will give remote volume controls once the original radio is replaced. Those who have replaced their audio units have gone with a water resistant marine grade unit. You also won't have the ability to have the audio volume levels change as you speed up and slow down. Gone too is the ability to have the driver passenger intercom system.

[SgtSlag]

Today's wireless intercom systems have radios built in; they can also have wireless bluetooth audio players (MP3, iPod, etc.). A radio system is not necessary, and people on the street will thank you for not blasting your music as you ride by. Cheers!

[k7nutN7nut]

Thanks for the "heads up" guys, I was just wondering on the "remote" volume control, I still plan on removing the 9090V. I will however, leave the "factory" wiring and controls...in case I want to go back?

[dmwoost]

check with Pete (b6sw@hotmail.com) he knows the Voyager radio.

[Winddancer]

I can't say for sure, but logic would tell me that if the radio is wired for steering wheel controls and auto volume, then you can splice the proper wire to the proper XII control switch...
This logic was gained by actually adding steering wheel controls and radio to my sons car, and as I did it, wondered why I couldnt just put this radio on my XII..
I just need a way to waterproof it since I ride in every weather condition known to man, and I really have not found a waterproof radio with an SD card for all your music AND is cheap.. hahaha
if you would like to test it without cutting they have wire tap connections..

[k7nutN7nut]

if you would like to test it without cutting they have wire tap connections..

I know about "wire taps", but I have something even better!
A parts bike, with an entire wire harness...hence the "extra" Clarion, amp and speakers. I think you might be on to something, but, I believe the clarion is designed to be controlled with two controls, the face and on the handlebars. Now the handle bar controls(external), are the one's I'm hoping I can have access too and I think that what your referring to as well?
I'll let you know, but it's not a big deal, it's more of a curiosity than anything. The Yaesu will be fine if I have to reach out and adjust the volume.

[suzib6sw]

K7..
I have a circuit diagram that will allow you to integrate a ham radio with the stock radio and intercom system..

Drop me an email at b6sw@hotmail.com or voyagerrr@outlook.com and I'll get it to you.

couple of transistors, a relay and bobs yer uncle..

Cheers..

Pete

[k7nutN7nut]

K7..
I have a circuit diagram that will allow you to integrate a ham radio with the stock radio and intercom system..

Drop me an email at b6sw@hotmail.com or voyagerrr@outlook.com and I'll get it to you.

couple of transistors, a relay and bobs yer uncle..

Cheers..

Pete

I would LOVE that, but I'm at work right now...if you get this before I get home, could you send it to me...

k7nut@mcallisterdrywall.com

www.mcallisterdrywall.com
Everything goes through there anyway! LOL

[n0nab]

Geof; Please post some pictures of the finished product. It sounds interesting. 73.

Scott, n0nab

[k7nutN7nut]

Will do Scott, not sure how she's gunna look myself, but I do have the FTM-10SR mounted in the slot on my "spare" dash, now the control head!?
But I will post pic's and let everyone now how it works.

[OldKawDrvr]

Will do Scott, not sure how she's gunna look myself, but I do have the FTM-10SR mounted in the slot on my "spare" dash, now the control head!?
But I will post pic's and let everyone now how it works.

A ham huh? That explains your screen name.
I Googeled the Yaesu radio and read some reviews. It looks like a nice little rig for a bike. One reviewer had one on a Harley.

If I were doing what you are, and I have considered it, I'd put the main radio inside the fairing on the left side where the factory CB would go and the control head on the faux tank where the cruise control is. The cruise control can be hot wired to stay on all the time or a new switch assy. could be brewed up with some miniature switches and led indicators and put on the dash somewhere. Or put the control unit on top of the dash above the speedo and tach. Leave the original stereo where it is and use the interface from suzib6sw to integrate the ham rig to the Kawasaki stereo system. By hooking into the Kawasaki stereo, you maintain the handlebar controls for volume and the automatic volume control dependent on speed. Plus you still have music.

I am working on a handheld CB to integrate to the Kawi radio on my XII. I got the circuit diagram from suzib6sw but haven't built it yet. I have added a Bluetooth unit to the CB to eliminate corded headsets. It's the 'Uclear WT-300'. I have the Uclear hbc-100 helmet unit in my brain bucket. The sound quality with the uclear unit is awesome. I listen to music from my smart phone with it now.
JMHO
Let us know how it turns out. If it works for you I may get my ham license back.
73's
Tom, formerly WB6QXD, WA9RYR, WN9MLM

[k7nutN7nut]

A ham huh? That explains your screen name.
I Googeled the Yaesu radio and read some reviews. It looks like a nice little rig for a bike.

If I were doing what you are, and I have considered it, I'd put the main radio inside the fairing on the left side where the factory CB would go and the control head on the faux tank where the cruise control is. The cruise control can be hot wired to stay on all the time or a new switch assy. could be brewed up with some miniature switches and led indicators and put on the dash somewhere. Or put the control unit on top of the dash above the speedo and tach. Leave the original stereo where it is and use the interface from suzib6sw to integrate the ham rig to the Kawasaki stereo system. By hooking into the Kawasaki stereo, you maintain the handlebar controls for volume and the automatic volume control dependent on speed. Plus you still have music.

I am working on a handheld CB to integrate to the Kawi radio on my XII. I got the circuit diagram from suzib6sw but haven't built it yet. I have added a Bluetooth unit to the CB to eliminate corded headsets. It's the 'Uclear WT-300'. I have the Uclear hbc-100 helmet unit in my brain bucket. The sound quality with the uclear unit is awesome. I listen to music from my smart phone with it now.
JMHO
Let us know how it turns out. If it works for you I may get my ham license back.
73's
Tom, formerly WB6QXD, WA9RYR, WN9MLM

I will Tom, but you need to re-read the info on the FTM-10R and FTM-10SR?
These two radio's are designed to go on motorcycles, because of there waterproof/water resistant capabilities and built in PTT switch and mic on the face, but also, there "broadcast" receivers. They receiver AM & FM broadcast band as well as aircraft band, plus there 2meter/70cm transceivers...all in stereo too. They also have an input for your MP3 or iPod, therefore eliminating the need for a player of any kind. That's why I am mounting mine where the stereo goes on my V XII, I won't need it and if I DO lose the ability to control the volume from the handlebar controls...oh well?
Oh ya and it has bluetooth capabilities too!
I hope to get this done in the next couple months, it is moving a bit slower than expected, but than again, I'm busy with other stuff at the same time...something I'm sure NONE of you know anything about!?

[suzib6sw]

Tom... another Voyager Owner rode in this week to see if I could get some earbuds working for his radio.. Larry had just bought a '00 and someone had fitted a VERY nice Hondaline Handlebar CB onto the bike.. I think it was made by J&M and there was just one box that fitted perfectly above the fuel tank immediately between the front and rear seats.. It was set up to work with the J&M or Air Rider headsets but wasnt integrated into the Voyager radio.. He wanted to hear the radio though the headsets. this Lovely unit had a MP3 trailing socket on the main box under the seat so I made up a cable to go from the yellow headset cable from the radio (he didnt have the Y cable or groundset cable) and plugged it into the CB.. We got radio/tape into the CB headsets, CB operational and intercom and over all , for an add on, I was VERY impressed.. The controls on the handlebars needed a little cleaning but all in all It all worked well..
I'll try and get the exact model number from Larry once he gets back home to GA.

Pete

[OldKawDrvr]

I will Tom, but you need to re-read the info on the FTM-10R and FTM-10SR?
These two radio's are designed to go on motorcycles, because of there waterproof/water resistant capabilities and built in PTT switch and mic on the face, but also, there "broadcast" receivers. They receiver AM & FM broadcast band as well as aircraft band, plus there 2meter/70cm transceivers...all in stereo too. They also have an input for your MP3 or iPod, therefore eliminating the need for a player of any kind. That's why I am mounting mine where the stereo goes on my V XII, I won't need it and if I DO lose the ability to control the volume from the handlebar controls...oh well?
Oh ya and it has bluetooth capabilities too!
I hope to get this done in the next couple months, it is moving a bit slower than expected, but than again, I'm busy with other stuff at the same time...something I'm sure NONE of you know anything about!?

That's an awesome radio! I hadn't read the specs at all, just the reviews. It's better than I had thought. I want one! The only spec I saw was it wasn't in production any longer. Do you know where I might find one? The price was right too. Under $300 new. I'm behind on my projects also. Riding has gotten in the way of tinkering.

[Bruce in OK]

Years ago, I had an FT757 with matching power supply. I opened the cover and flipped the switch that opened up 11 meter to the transceiver. It was my base station until all of the men I talked with moved or passed away. Thanks for tripping that memory--lots of great hours interacting with some awesome guys.....

[k7nutN7nut]

Geof; Please post some pictures of the finished product. It sounds interesting. 73.

Scott, n0nab

Scott, I'm not done yet, I got the bike in the shop to tear it down , but I'm stuck on a way to connect to the amp, without a pin-out on the DIN?
I got the schematic from Pete, that is great, however, I'm not "adding" a ham radio to my Voyager...I'm "replacing" the Clarion. So I need to know how
the system inputs the audio from the Clarion to the amp?
I'm thinking I may be "cutting" the DIN from the amp off and replacing the connection with Weatherpack connectors.
Here is how the Yaesu looks in place, I was doing 3 projects on the bike today, so I didn't get too far on the install.

[suzib6sw]

Geoff, Just sent the amp pin-out.. Hopefully that will help.

As a general FYI.. With the stock of the LCD displays for the Voyager Radio reaching critical, Im now actively exploring aftermarket marine radios and interfacing them the the stock handlebar controls.

I doubt I will be able to interface the stock CB and we will probably loose the intercom, but at least we should be able to keep up to date with Bluetooth, Ipod and CD playback..
Its going to involve a little metalwork to support the radio but Im hopeful.

Cheers..

Pete

[k7nutN7nut]

Pete, I got that thank you, that helps ALOT!
Now I need to figure out if I'm going to find the DIN plug to wire to, or just cut the DIN off the amp and go Weatherpack brand?
But either way, the schematic was the "missing link" on this project!
I am puzzled, looking at the schematic of the audio system Pete, the sound or AF comes out the Clarion in two ways, one to the handlebar controls and one through the DIN to the amp and out of the amp to the speakers. How is the audio being "shunted"...I'm guessing inside the Clarion?
I could see if the AF went from the Clarion, to the amp, then to the handle bar controls, but no!?
Oh well, bottom line is, I will be selling a second Clarion PK-9090V...bye bye stereo!

[suzib6sw]

Hi Geoff..
Well I get first dibs on the radio :-)

Ok.. there are two amps involved with the radio.. Inside the PK9090V there is a small 4 watt amp used to power the headset.
You can take speakers off the headset leads OR from the lead that connects to the power amo, not that it will be very loud.
The HS button throws a relay inside the radio to feed the sound to the headset din or the power amp's Din.

Volume controls.. There are "2" .. Typically, if you are NOT using the intercom or CB Mic option, you can turn the two left controls fully counter clockwise.. The Important ones are the right radio controls.. The inner is tone. That is set according to personal taste but I suiggest fully clockwise for max treble. There is NO bass control on these radios... Now, the outer right should be set to about 2pm. This controls the MAXIMUM volume above 30MPH which is sensed bu the AV/AC circuit and reed switch in the speedo .
The Handlebar volume control typically should be set to 2 or 3 LCD blocks in the display. This controls the maximum volume below 30MPH. 3 blocks is good for heavy town traffic, 2 for more rural areas..

The two left controls on the radio adjust the Mic volume for the intercom (Inner) and the depth of fade of music/radio to allow mic to be heard and time to return to normal radio/tape volume.


There is no actual AF signal up at the handlebars at all.. The Handlebar controls are in parallel.

cheers..

Pete