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I bought,and installed a TPMS,model 390667,if that makes any difference.
I have 2 questions.
How do you get it to turn on? I tried to get it to turn on by pressing both buttons together,and it turns on,only showing the clock,then turns off.
I rode it 5 miles,and it did nothing,then pushed both buttons together,and it turned on very slowly,finally getting both pressure readings 5 miles later.
I took a 35 mile ride trying different button sequences,and finally getting it to turn on at the end of the ride :hmm:
It came with no directions :thk:
last question,if I can get it to turn on,will it run a whole day before the battery dies,or do I need to get bike battery power to it?
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Don't know your particular model. I bought mine off of e-Bay, an inexpensive Chinese setup. The instructions were poor, but I managed, like you, to fumble my way through and my system has served rather well. The base unit is charged by USB cable. The Sending Units, however, run off of a watch battery. The Sending Units run 24/7/365. Mine died this past Winter. I need to replace the batteries in my Sending Units.

You may need to check the Sending Unit batteries. Good luck. Cheers!
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Hi,SgtSlag,do I need to put a USB charge port on my bike,or will the battery in the unit run for a days ride :hmm:
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I bought the same TPMS as SgtSlag, on his recommendation. I checked a while ago, and that link is 404. But Chinese products like this can stick around the market like zombies.

I strongly recommend buying sending units that allow battery changes. I think that means external pups, on the valve stem. (I don’t buy in to tire balance fusses.) Note that these have been “on” since manufacture. In three years or so, I’ve replaced two batteries (one for each wheel). Otherwise, I’d have to replace the whole TPMS.

Your question was about the receiving/display unit. I’ve needed to recharge mine about twice per year. I mounted mine on the plastic cover that hides the handlebar mounts. Two easy screws, and I can take the whole thing into the house. Mine uses the same plug as my ancient Android phone.

I also can charge it off the bike, such as while eating lunch somewhere. I don’t need a USB charging port (that leaks water) on the bike. Instead, I have a little USB plug that plugs into a pigtail (that I fish out of the fairing as necessary) that hooks straight to my battery. It also plugs to heated gear and a battery charger, as necessary. I don’t need to charge my phone very often; and don’t need no stinkin’ maps apps or GPS.

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My Reader runs on a charge for weeks. The Chinese model I bought has the external stem mounted sensors. I need to crack them open to replace the batteries, as well.

LOL! A cigarette ligher port is not necessarily leaky. Mine was purchased at Wal-Mart; it has a rubber seal on the spring-loaded door; it is mounted on the top of the CC switch housing, with caulk-sealed wires running through the faux tank (no leaks in 3+ years, on any of it, and we have ridden through plenty of rain, and more than one downpour). I do not use the lighter port very often, but it is nice to have it on the bike, as an option!

I recommend a sub-fuse block, beneath the faux tank. I used silicone caulking to mount it on top of some OEM plastic -- I can remove it, if necessary, as I used minimal caulk to adhere it. I added the cigarette lighter port to it, along with a pair of hi/lo car horns, using the OEM horn switch circuit to power a relay -- the horns draw power directly from the battery, through the sub-fuse block. The sub-fuse block is a fantastic accessory to add to your Voyager, or any bike, really. Connect the sub-fuse block to a relay: the relay only turns the sub-fuse block on when the bike is running; this prevents toys from draining/killing the battery, when the bike is off. :idea:

I also strongly recommend adding a Voltmeter, of some sort, to your bike. Connect it directly to the battery, so you can monitor the health of both the battery, and the charging system. There are multiple threads on this forum, showing various designs. You can get small, LED rectangular Voltmeters, for very little money, off of e-Bay, but these are more challenging to mount. Make sure to run this through the sub-fuse block, so it goes off when the bike is turned off! :!! Use another relay: when the bike is running, the relay, in series with the Voltmeter's Positive lead, is connected; when the bike is turned off, the Voltmeter's Positive lead is opened. If you use an LCD (no light, usually a brown background, with black letters/numbers, cannot be read in darkness, without a separate light), instead of an LED (illuminated, typically Blue or Red, shines in the dark), you can skip the relay switch, as an LCD consumes micro-watts of power -- it would take months to drain the battery...

On my Honda, and my 440 LTD, I went with an automotive, round gauge. My Voyager has a smart Voltmeter, which is OOP, otherwise I would adamantly recommend it: it monitors the life of the battery, indicating how much starting power it has left in it -- warns me before the battery leaves us sitting somewhere.

LED lights conversion is also highly recommended: it frees up amperes and watts for the battery, and your accessories, as the charging system is anemic, on these bikes. Besides that, LED's have a Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) of 30,000-50,000 hours, where an incandescent bulb typically maxes out at a MTBF of 7,000 hours.

More than you paid for, in this post, but I hope you find some of it useful. Cheers! :thmup:
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Thanks,Nails,and SgtSlag,for your replys.
My TPMS has no model listed on the box except for 390667,and no directions ! :bat:
I do appreciate not needing to keep a charging wire on it full time! :thmup:
I have had a voltmeter on my VXII for several years,do to regular stator,regulator/rectifier failures on my GS1100GK that I had prior to the VXII :hmm:
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I lost the directions for my TPMS. Maybe SgtSlag will PM me how to change the limits, especially the tire temperature limits. But I can’t actually read the temp, and I can’t reliably make out whether the tire pressure is “alarming” either. All my eyes can see is the actual tire pressures at the moment. And that’s totally worth the cost of the unit. I check my tire pressures every time before I start the bike (turns on with wiggling), several times while riding, and whenever I turn the key off (the display is next to the key). Just that works swell for me.
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Here is an Amazon link to the system I have. The instructions are shown on the Amazon page! I fumbled my way through, using trial and error... I need to copy and save this page!

I lost the special wrench for tightening/loosening the locking nuts. I use a pliers, but a small wrench will do the trick as well. I need to replace the batteries in my sending units. I hope I don't break them when I try! Cheers!
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Thx for the link. Hope you don’t have trouble finding batteries. I got mine at a speciality battery shop, and the proprietor was surprised to find them, in the back somewhere. You can take the battery cover off by unscrewing it without loosening the valvestem locking nut.
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I did find a SYKIK rider TPMS just before I took off for the 2915 mile ride to the Rally,and after getting the top limit rear pressure set to 55psi,I was very happy with the results :perfect10:
Thank you to SgtSlag and Nails for the info on finding them :thanks:
The rear went from 38psi on a 55degree day up to 48 after riding a couple hours at 95 degrees.At that the temp was 117 F :hmm:
The front did not change as much,as it is in fresh air and does not carry as much load.
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The link above doesn’t actually say how to change the temp limits. Does anyone know how? My receiving unit’s battery goes dead quicker for all the unnecessary beeping and red flashing.
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Nails wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:56 pm The link above doesn’t actually say how to change the temp limits. Does anyone know how? My receiving unit’s battery goes dead quicker for all the unnecessary beeping and red flashing.
I had my friend,who we rode to the rally with, found the proper sequence to do it :thk:
As the directions made no sense to me :bat:
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Nails wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:56 pm The link above doesn’t actually say how to change the temp limits. Does anyone know how? My receiving unit’s battery goes dead quicker for all the unnecessary beeping and red flashing.
Nails,I just took my manual apart and copied it,PM me your address,and I will send it to you. :thmup:
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Much appreciated. I just got back home from a good long ride, else I would've said "thanks!" sooner.

My temp alarm flashes at me basically every hot day, like the first few of this trip. So the display unit goes dead. Annoying.
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